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I definitely want to revisit our read of the BAT

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 12:52 am
by biopearl123
MG and Ryan and STA, something still not right. If the Dr. K study included time to diagnosis and time on therapy along with time to death than the first column (pre 2016) can not possibly be right since it still reads 15.4 (time from diagnosis to Rux+ Rux duration+ time to death). Not right. Still working on understanding this better. The BAT arm may still be very long (perhaps in part because as STA has pointed out at least some Rux failures get started on Imetelstat but there is a mixture of information here that is still not sorted out right. MG maybe take another run at this, we are not there yet.

Re: I definitely want to revisit our read of the BAT

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 3:51 am
by biopearl123
In light of this quote “ Overall survival was measured from time of JAK inhibitor discontinuation to death or censored at last follow-up.” I think we (read me) have drawn some incorrect and premature conclusions. I want to apologize to the board for taking what was misinformation and running with it. Instead as you smile while I back track, tail firmly ‘twist legs, we need to try to understand the factors that are behind the magnitude of the improved BAT times in this latest paper. Dr. Eid is an author and I hope he can explain what is going on here. We have speculated about post Rux failures ending up in IMpact but that probably is a fraction of total patients. Moffett is only one center and probably a leader in improving BAT but the magnitude of BAT reported is hard to ignore. The IMbark Imet data is 10 years old. The updated RWD analysis is not. Many MIA Culpas. bp

Re: I definitely want to revisit our read of the BAT

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 4:14 pm
by mistergern
BP, I had a lengthy discussion with Gemini concerning the RW Data and he did a very good job of breaking down the data - see the following:

Please evaluate the RW data on Myleofibrosis abstract being presented at ASCO by Geron


The long-term data presented by Kuykendall et al. (Abstract #366) at the ASCO 2026 annual meeting provides a comprehensive, 4-year follow-up comparing Phase 2 IMbark trial data (imetelstat, 9.4 mg/kg) against an institutional real-world Best Available Therapy (BAT) cohort in JAK-inhibitor (JAKi) relapsed/refractory Myelofibrosis (MF).

This dataset, combined with ongoing management commentary and biological mechanisms, outlines a clear picture of the statistical, operational, and clinical dynamics impacting Geron’s Phase 3 IMpactMF registration trial.

1. The Core ASCO 2026 Survival Data & The Temporal Paradox
The updated post hoc analysis (median follow-up: 46.2 months for imetelstat; 48.2 months for BAT) confirms that imetelstat maintains a robust, statistically significant survival advantage over unweighted historical controls:

Imetelstat Monotherapy: Median Overall Survival (mOS) of 30.7 months (95% CI: 25.5–36.9).

Unweighted BAT Cohort: mOS of 15.4 months (95% CI: 13.1–30.5).

Statistical Significance: Hazard Ratio (HR) = 0.512 (P=.003). This survival benefit remains stable across propensity-score weighting sensitivity models (ATO and sIPTW).

The Shifting Real-World Baseline
The critical finding of the abstract is the documentation of a massive shift in real-world survival outcomes based on the historical era of patient diagnosis:

This reveals that contemporary, real-world patients failing ruxolitinib are living dramatically longer (34.2 to 39.8 months) than the historical baseline (~15 months) initially assumed when modern trials were engineered.

The Operational Driver: Ruxolitinib Kinetics
Investigators confirmed that allogeneic stem cell transplant rates remained low and stable (5.6% to 9.5%) across all eras. Instead, the survival extension is driven by a radical change in how clinicians deploy ruxolitinib:

Accelerated Time to Initiation: The mean time from MF diagnosis to ruxolitinib initiation plummeted from 39.7 months (pre-2019) to just 8.2 months (post-2019).

Shorter Upfront Exposure: The mean duration of ruxolitinib therapy fell from 26.1 months to 15.0 months (pre- vs. post-2019).

Modern clinicians are executing an early, proactive pivot away from ruxolitinib at the first signs of sub-optimal response, bringing healthier, less treatment-exhausted patients to next-line interventions.

2. Structural Realities of the Phase 3 IMpactMF Trial
Geron's Phase 3 IMpactMF trial is a randomized (2:1), open-label study evaluating imetelstat monotherapy against investigator-selected non-JAKi BAT in intermediate-2 or high-risk MF.

Trial Insulation Against Direct Contamination
The trial protocol strictly prohibits the use of any JAK inhibitors on the control arm. This means that while specialized, second-line commercial JAKis (fedratinib, pacritinib, momelotinib) are elongating survival in true real-world registries, they cannot directly enter the trial to artificially inflate the BAT arm’s performance. Furthermore, because IMpactMF utilizes a prospective, contemporaneous control group rather than historical controls, the trial natively adapts to modern clinical baselines without requiring structural protocol adjustments.

Pre-Enrollment "Lead-Time" Bias
Because the inclusion criteria require patients to enter immediately following ruxolitinib failure, the macro trend of early ruxolitinib discontinuation dictates the exact physiological profile of patients at the trial gate.

Both arms are inheriting an identical, modern cohort of patients who enter the trial with superior functional status, less profound bone marrow exhaustion, and lower constitutional wasting. This structurally raises the intrinsic survival capacity of both arms from day one.

3. Operational and Statistical Countermeasures
The rising survival baseline poses a distinct operational challenge: IMpactMF is an event-driven trial requiring a set number of deaths to trigger its interim (planned for H2 2026 at ~35% events) and final analyses. If patients across both arms live longer, event accumulation slows down, pushing calendar timelines outward.

However, management and statistical analysis plans incorporate specific measures to protect the trial's primary overall survival endpoint:

Mitigating Crossover Contamination
While the protocol permits BAT patients who exhibit objective disease progression (≥25% increase in spleen volume) to cross over to imetelstat, Geron’s leadership highlights that the actual impact on the final analysis will likely be negligible due to two factors:

High Operational Hurdle: Progressive Myelofibrosis patients on palliative, non-JAKi BAT deteriorate rapidly. By the time they meet rigid, imaging-confirmed progression criteria, a large portion will experience declines in ECOG performance or organ function, rendering them ineligible to successfully execute the crossover safely.

Built-In Preserving Models: The Statistical Analysis Plan (SAP) does not rely purely on raw Intent-to-Treat (ITT) curves. It incorporates specialized mathematical corrections—specifically the Rank-Preserving Structural Failure Time (RPSFT) model and two-stage censoring methods—designed to strip out the survival-extending effects of post-progression crossover, adjusting the control arm back to its true single-agent trajectory.

4. The Biological Leverage: The Disease-Modification Advantage
The ultimate variable is how the early-pivot window mathematically interacts with imetelstat's distinct mechanism of action. Because telomerase inhibition acts directly on malignant megakaryocytic and myeloid clones to induce bone marrow clearance, delivering a healthier patient substrate creates a non-linear therapeutic advantage over a purely palliative control arm.

Preserved Hematopoiesis: In an early-pivot patient, the malignant clone has had less time to acquire high-risk sub-clonal mutations (e.g., ASXL1, SRSF2, IDH1/2). The patient retains a higher pool of normal hematopoietic stem cells capable of repopulating the bone marrow once imetelstat selectively suppresses the dominant malignant clone.

Flattening the Transformation Curve: The primary driver of mortality in advanced MF is transformation to Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML). Traditional non-JAKi BAT options cannot alter this rate. Introducing a clone-clearing agent early can theoretically prevent or significantly delay the leukemic transformation cliff, creating a wide, permanent separation of the survival curves in favor of the active arm.

Summary
The ASCO 2026 data shows that the baseline survival bar for Myelofibrosis patients has structurally risen across the board due to optimized ruxolitinib management. While this trend threatens to delay event-accrual timelines for the IMpactMF trial readout, it simultaneously optimizes the biological conditions necessary for a disease-modifying agent to maximize its survival separation over palliative therapies.

Then we followed up with additional questions - see next posts.

Re: I definitely want to revisit our read of the BAT

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 4:15 pm
by mistergern
What do you think the new mOS for the BAT patients will be at Interim for ImpactMF?

Projecting the expected median Overall Survival (mOS) for the Best Available Therapy (BAT) control arm at the upcoming IMpactMF interim analysis (expected H2 2026) requires isolating how the strict trial environment forces a deviation from pure, unconstrained real-world data registries.

While the ASCO 2026 real-world data demonstrates that contemporary post-2019 patients can achieve a mOS of 39.8 months in a free-market setting, the actual mOS for the BAT arm inside IMpactMF will land lower—projected to settle between 22.0 and 26.0 months.

The reasoning for this specific range depends on a strict balance between the "healthier patient" entry bias and the suppressive rules of the clinical trial protocol.

1. Why it Will Exceed the Historical 14–16 Month Baseline
The original statistical modeling for IMpactMF was anchored on a historical BAT assumption of roughly 14 to 16 months. The trial's control arm will easily outperform this baseline due to the pre-enrollment lead-time bias:

The modern patients fully enrolled in the trial (as of September 2025) were managed under the new ruxolitinib kinetics. They were discontinued from upfront JAKi therapy within 8 to 15 months of diagnosis rather than being left on it for 3 to 4 years.

Consequently, the patients randomized to BAT entered the trial with a fundamentally preserved performance status (ECOG 0–2), less severe constitutional wasting, and a higher baseline bone marrow reserve. This baseline health structurally adds several months of survival capacity to the cohort, irrespective of what drug they take next.

2. Why it Cannot Match the Real-World Post-2019 Metric (~39.8 Months)
The unconstrained real-world registry data achieves a ~40-month mOS because real-world clinicians have total freedom to adapt. The IMpactMF trial strip-mines that freedom via three protocol constraints:

The Absolute Ban on Commercial JAKIs: In the real world, a post-ruxolitinib patient is frequently cycled onto newer, specialized commercial JAK2 inhibitors like fedratinib, pacritinib, or momelotinib. These modern options preserve counts and manage splenomegaly efficiently, directly driving the 39.8-month real-world figure. Because IMpactMF strictly prohibits any JAKi on the BAT arm, investigators are forced to select sub-optimal, traditional palliative therapies (hydroxyurea, danazol, hypomethylating agents, or low-dose chemotherapy).

The Strict Protocol Washout: Real-world transitions can be fluid. The trial mandates a rigid 14-day washout period from prior JAKi therapy before randomization, exposing vulnerable patients to acute ruxolitinib withdrawal syndrome (abrupt return of severe cytopenias and splenomegaly), which can permanently degrade their performance status right at the start of the trial timeline.

The "Truncation" of Crossover Data: While crossover to imetelstat is permitted upon a validated 25% or greater increase in spleen volume, management's own projections suggest the operational volume of patients successfully transitioning will be low. Furthermore, the Statistical Analysis Plan's built-in mathematical correctors (the RPSFT model) are specifically designed to strip out the survival boost added after crossover, adjusting the final computed control curve downward to isolate pure, non-JAKi BAT performance.

Summary Projection
The interaction of these factors creates a compressed statistical outcome for the control arm:

By bringing healthier, early-pivot patients into a rigid trial architecture that denies them access to modern commercial JAKi sequencing, the control arm will outlive historical cohorts but fall significantly short of current real-world registry peaks.

For Geron, this 22-to-26-month hurdle means that if imetelstat successfully exploits the healthier bone marrow environment to push its own monotherapy survival into the high-30s or mid-40s as biologically modeled, it will easily maintain the necessary Hazard Ratio separation to clear the interim overall survival endpoint.

Re: I definitely want to revisit our read of the BAT

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 4:16 pm
by mistergern
Now do a deep dive on the mOS for Imetelstat patients ---

To project the median Overall Survival (mOS) for imetelstat patients in the Phase 3 IMpactMF trial, it is necessary to separate the drug’s single-agent biological baseline from the shifting mechanics of modern clinical management.

While the historical Phase 2 IMbark trial established a baseline mOS of 29.9 to 30.7 months for the 9.4 mg/kg dose, a granular analysis indicates that the active arm in IMpactMF is positioned to significantly outperform this historical metric. The biological and operational data suggest that imetelstat's mOS will settle between 36.0 and 42.0 months at the interim/final readouts.

The deep dive into this projection rests on three distinct pillars: patient baseline preservation, biological dose-exposure kinetics, and clonal clearance trends.

1. The Pre-Enrollment Health Premium (Lead-Time Bias)
The primary conclusion from the ASCO 2026 real-world data is that modern clinical practice moves patients off ruxolitinib in under a year (~8 to 10 months) rather than exhausting them on a failing drug for 3 to 4 years. This operational shift delivers a fundamentally different patient to the active arm of IMpactMF than the ones treated in the Phase 2 IMbark trial (enrolled 2015–2016):

Preserved Performance Status: Patients in IMbark frequently entered with advanced constitutional wasting, severe cachexia, and profound cytopenias. IMpactMF patients enter with superior performance scores (ECOG 0–1) and intact end-organ function.

Bone Marrow Reserve: Less prolonged exposure to ruxolitinib-induced myelosuppression means these patients retain a higher baseline count of healthy hematopoietic stem cells. When high-grade, transient telomerase-induced cytopenias occur, a healthier marrow recovers more rapidly, preventing prolonged dose delays and maintaining the strict 21-day treatment intensity required to suppress the malignant clone.

2. The Multi-Mutational & Clonal Barrier
Myelofibrosis naturally progresses through clonal evolution, picking up high-molecular-risk (HMR) mutations over time (such as ASXL1, SRSF2, EZH2, and IDH1/2).

The IMbark Baseline: Because IMbark patients were late-line, they possessed highly complex, multi-mutated sub-clones. Even within that heavily mutated environment, imetelstat achieved its ~30-month mOS, proving it could eliminate high-risk clones.

The IMpactMF Advantage: By treating patients early after ruxolitinib failure, imetelstat intercepts the disease before extensive sub-clonal branching occurs. Suppressing the primary driver clone (e.g., JAK2, CALR, or MPL) before it accumulates multiple secondary mutations provides a longer runway for complete clonal suppression, extending the time to progression.

3. The Relationship Between Fibrosis Reversal and Survival
Data from the IMbark trial confirmed that imetelstat's survival advantage is closely linked to direct target tissue modification rather than standard spleen shrinkage:

The Fibrosis Split: In patients who achieved a ≥1 grade improvement in bone marrow fibrosis, the median OS reached 31.6 months, compared to 24.6 months for those without fibrosis improvement (HR=0.54).

Allele Burden Suppression: Patients achieving a ≥20% reduction in variant allele frequency (VAF) demonstrated a median survival of 31.6 months versus 22.8 months for non-responders.

Because healthier, early-pivot bone marrow retains greater plasticity, the percentage of patients achieving true tissue modification and molecular responses should scale higher in Phase 3 than the 35% to 43% observed in the late-stage Phase 2 setting.

4. The Leukemia Transformation Cliff
The primary cause of mortality in intermediate-2 and high-risk Myelofibrosis is transformation into Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML). Once a patient transforms, survival is measured in weeks or months.

Traditional palliative BAT options cannot halt this genetic instability. Imetelstat’s telomerase inhibition selectively accelerates apoptosis in the malignant megakaryocytic lines driving this transformation. By entering patients earlier in their disease course, imetelstat acts as a prophylactic barrier against leukemic transformation. This changes the shape of the survival curve: instead of a steady decline, the active arm should develop a prolonged survival plateau.

Projections for the Survival Delta (Δ)
Even with the Best Available Therapy (BAT) control arm rising to a projected 22.0–26.0 months due to healthier patient inputs, the mathematical expansion of imetelstat’s performance maintains the statistical margin required for trial success:

Conclusion
By treating a healthier biological substrate, imetelstat monotherapy is positioned to maximize its true therapeutic capacity. The single-agent efficacy ceiling is expected to scale upward, offsetting the rising control arm baseline and preserving the Hazard Ratio necessary to meet the primary overall survival endpoint at the interim analysis.

Re: I definitely want to revisit our read of the BAT

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 10:35 pm
by Ryan
Nice, key words of all that are , “statistically significant”

What is said from the get go in an earlier thread holds with all that explanation —- trial design is saving us with/from this massive RW shift. Thanks Drs. Rizo, Feller, Scarlett and probably several others 🙏